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let me tell you how i think karl rove views this. let me try to go into karl rove's mind with my hazmat suit. karl rove would probably say that you're focused on winning primaries. he's focused on winning elections. he would say that you guys are going to put up candidates who are -- will pass anyone's purity test like sharon ingle, my friend, christine o'donnell mr. mourdock, he will put up guys who could get elected although after last november, i'm not sure he can make that claim. what do you say to that claim that the tea party is marginalizing the party by getting unelectable candidates winning primaries? >> because it is not the tea party. the reason why we keep losing as republicans is because we keep going down the path of we keep nominating moderates and moderates don't win. why are we going to keep trying to sit there and listen to people unfortunately like governor jindal that say we need to move more to the left and become more like the democrats and appeal to all of these demographics. that's what's causing us to lose el
let me tell you how i think karl rove views this. let me try to go into karl rove's mind with my hazmat suit. karl rove would probably say that you're focused on winning primaries. he's focused on winning elections. he would say that you guys are going to put up candidates who are -- will pass anyone's purity test like sharon ingle, my friend, christine o'donnell mr. mourdock, he will put up guys who could get elected although after last november, i'm not sure he can make that claim. what do...
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and so it's very easy for karl rove to saunter in and say oh, well, we'll stop this. you can't fight something with nothing. he did not back a single winning candidate last year. so what is going to happen? that is the republican party. that's why they win primaries, and the republican party has a more serious problem, which is that's 30% of the country that holds those views, maybe more or less. they can win primaries. they can never win national elections. but what is this republican establishment that rove represents? it's money people. but where are the voters within the republican party. it's not just tea party, it's the real base of the republican party whether they call themselves tea partiers or not. this is what they want. >> i was struck by how unified the reaction against rove was on the right. i mean, all of the influential -- all of the right-wing blogs that are influential enough that a liberal like me knows to go read them. >> right. >> all of them unified with being just disgusted with karl rove for having suggested this. it seems as though this is a v
and so it's very easy for karl rove to saunter in and say oh, well, we'll stop this. you can't fight something with nothing. he did not back a single winning candidate last year. so what is going to happen? that is the republican party. that's why they win primaries, and the republican party has a more serious problem, which is that's 30% of the country that holds those views, maybe more or less. they can win primaries. they can never win national elections. but what is this republican...
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and karl rove can't organize it. neither can any of the other people who played with that power but who now can't control it. >> so those who rode the tiger are now inside the tiger. >> exactly. >> don't forget, the chamber of commerce, at very times, made common cause with the antigovernment, anti-tax, anti-everything. they were willing to get in bed with him at certain points. and now they're paying for it. and karl is trying to unwind what he's wound. >> he's like a track tout. i used to go and after the races were over, they would show you who they'd recommend you'd bet on. it was always the winners that pass out the free picks. i would have bet on this guy. that's rove out there saying i would have had all of these winners picked, we would have won all of these general elections and now everybody realizes we're going to go over it in a minute. but your thoughts? >> now, i totally agree with howard. your analogy there. the problem for karl is we have all the betting slips. his two organizations, american cross ro
and karl rove can't organize it. neither can any of the other people who played with that power but who now can't control it. >> so those who rode the tiger are now inside the tiger. >> exactly. >> don't forget, the chamber of commerce, at very times, made common cause with the antigovernment, anti-tax, anti-everything. they were willing to get in bed with him at certain points. and now they're paying for it. and karl is trying to unwind what he's wound. >> he's like a...
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karl rove thinks that, marc marco rubio thinks that. it's not guilty aboutish issues, like you just said. when you look at, hogan, the war on women and the legislation they passed in certain states against women's right to choose, it wasn't that women were objecting to the tone, they were objecting to the policy. when you look at they're closing planned parenthood, let's go to a judge. let's teal with the fact that you have a man named paul brown who announced today his bid for the georgia senate. this is a guy who calls evolution and the big bang theory live straight from the pit of health. he sug jeszed the president abide by the soviet constitution and he called snookie more substantive than the president of the united states. he might say it with a better tone, but how do you take this out there and act like this is something that the american public can even entertain having to represent them in a senate or any other office. >> well, it's not. but those aren't the tenants of the republican party. but this is an out liar trying to t
karl rove thinks that, marc marco rubio thinks that. it's not guilty aboutish issues, like you just said. when you look at, hogan, the war on women and the legislation they passed in certain states against women's right to choose, it wasn't that women were objecting to the tone, they were objecting to the policy. when you look at they're closing planned parenthood, let's go to a judge. let's teal with the fact that you have a man named paul brown who announced today his bid for the georgia...
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karl rove was allowed stay. still bush's brain has been facing heat since his super pact said they would strain the tea from the party, and determine that less in -- the new strategy was met with mixed reviews. karl rove is a total loser. money given to him might as well be thrown down the drain, wrote the donald. radio host mark levin also weighed in. >> karl rove, let me tell you something. you're despised by the grassroots, and let me tell your donors something. stop wasting your money." >> never one to sit on the sidelines, the rush-inator said some of the strong-arm tactics were backfiring. >> the newspaper article about karl rove's intention is only serving to unite the tea party in ways even now it hasn't been. right now there is a unity and an energy maybe just short of a rebirth going on." >> that's right. a rebirth of the tea party. as a reminder, a few months ago karl rove was the evil architect trying to take down president obama. way, way, way back in september obama campaign manager jim messina wro
karl rove was allowed stay. still bush's brain has been facing heat since his super pact said they would strain the tea from the party, and determine that less in -- the new strategy was met with mixed reviews. karl rove is a total loser. money given to him might as well be thrown down the drain, wrote the donald. radio host mark levin also weighed in. >> karl rove, let me tell you something. you're despised by the grassroots, and let me tell your donors something. stop wasting your...
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let's talk about karl rove here. terry jeffery editor of c.n.s. news has written an article saying karl rove is not a conservative. i know the battle lines and why they're doing this, but what do you think is rove really putting himself out there here and might he get damaged badly in this? >> karl rove, you think if he would have been damaged badly it would have happened in this most recent election. his pack backed eight candidates, seven of whom lost. todd akin was a religious conservative congressman from missouri who rove would have seen happy elected to the senate. he goofed, said those horrible things and blew the campaign apart. it's a little bit of a slippery slope for him because he was fine with what was going on there. karl rove is motivated by money. we all know that. >> cenk: really? >> we always have to remember about karl rove, he was a recount in florida away, a supreme court justice away from being one of the biggest political morons in history. if he had gotten, if george bush had last, we wouldn't be talking about him today. he
let's talk about karl rove here. terry jeffery editor of c.n.s. news has written an article saying karl rove is not a conservative. i know the battle lines and why they're doing this, but what do you think is rove really putting himself out there here and might he get damaged badly in this? >> karl rove, you think if he would have been damaged badly it would have happened in this most recent election. his pack backed eight candidates, seven of whom lost. todd akin was a religious...
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a candidate that perhaps karl rove will steer away from. paul broun, the georgia congressman running to replace saxby chambliss, and "the times" pointed out today, quote, mr. broun, a physician on the house science, space, and technology committee, attracted attention last fall for saying that, quote, evolution, embryology, and the big bang theory, all of that is lies straight from the pit of hell. i'll bet that plays well in his congressional district, but my hunch is that's not playing well even in a conservative state like georgia when you're talking statewide in the general. what do you say? >> well, of course, paul is going to get a lot of competition in that primary fight. you're going to be looking at guys like tom price and tom graves who have an incredibly strong record of fiscal conservatism. i think the core of the tea party, remember, is not social issues, it's not abortion, it's not immigration, it's not these other things. it's whether or not we should spend money we don't have. it's whether or not the government should live w
a candidate that perhaps karl rove will steer away from. paul broun, the georgia congressman running to replace saxby chambliss, and "the times" pointed out today, quote, mr. broun, a physician on the house science, space, and technology committee, attracted attention last fall for saying that, quote, evolution, embryology, and the big bang theory, all of that is lies straight from the pit of hell. i'll bet that plays well in his congressional district, but my hunch is that's not...
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. >> john: when karl rove agrees with you you might want to question what you're doing. but 83% of americans approve of drones. why are people so quick to accept this as the best option and reluctant to question it? >> well, it's never going to happen to them. they're not a terrorist so therefore it doesn't affect them. you have the talking heads discussing this issue day after day, trying to tell the american public based on two cases that the president has the authority to do this. it gives the president no authority to do the types of things to here. so for the fall-back is the use of military force, it was a bill passed in 2011 and it was the green light to kill americans on foreign soil. it was vague crazy talk by a gaggle of drafters who saw the opportunity to obliterate the 14th amendment by erasing checks and balances and destroying any sense of transparency. this was their opportunity john, to rush in, and obliterate the constitution even beyond what we saw down with gitmo and it was deplorable. >> john: mike, i respect people who say that this is how wars are g
. >> john: when karl rove agrees with you you might want to question what you're doing. but 83% of americans approve of drones. why are people so quick to accept this as the best option and reluctant to question it? >> well, it's never going to happen to them. they're not a terrorist so therefore it doesn't affect them. you have the talking heads discussing this issue day after day, trying to tell the american public based on two cases that the president has the authority to do...
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just want to -- a quick word i mention to susan page about karl rove forming this new pac. it's called the conservative victory fund. and last year, karl rove had such a disastrous record that he spent $400 million lost the presidency they lost ten out of 12 senate races. they lost four out of nine house races. all of that money spent against democrats so now he's going to form yet another pac and spend this money in the republican primaries against republicans that he doesn't like, particularly tea party members he doesn't like. i love satisfying republicans eat each other alive. but i think this does pose a couple of important questions. number one after his record of blowing $400 million last year, why would anybody trust karl rove with a dime? and two, i want to know -- i want to know, damn it, how much money is karl rove making off these super pacs. you know he's not working for nothing. i'll get he's getting 10%. i'll bet he got $40 million out of that super pac last year. now he wants even more. >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." armed with the facts, and t
just want to -- a quick word i mention to susan page about karl rove forming this new pac. it's called the conservative victory fund. and last year, karl rove had such a disastrous record that he spent $400 million lost the presidency they lost ten out of 12 senate races. they lost four out of nine house races. all of that money spent against democrats so now he's going to form yet another pac and spend this money in the republican primaries against republicans that he doesn't like,...
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was exposed for the -- always so all powerful, karl rove. scary. he is a sad pathetic, little wrong man on election flight sputtering. anyway, this is what caused all of the trouble. fight, fight fight. >> love this. >> stephanie: shoving each other into the lockers. leaders of the tea party fuming about plans by some republican strategists including karl rove to raise money to help quote-unquote electable candidates win primary races. leaders of the tea party and other republican groups that oppose abortion and gay rights responded by calling rove a fake conservative who had declared war on the tea party. fight, fight fight fight! seriously, kids, don't fight. you're both equally wrong about everything. it doesn't really matter how this comes out. >> stephanie: first public glimpse inside a power struggle inside the republican party. bloomberg writes in wake of the epic november loss, the riff could lead to more costly republican primaries. fight, fight, fight! brent boseel says their idea of the most electable presidential candidate was mi
was exposed for the -- always so all powerful, karl rove. scary. he is a sad pathetic, little wrong man on election flight sputtering. anyway, this is what caused all of the trouble. fight, fight fight. >> love this. >> stephanie: shoving each other into the lockers. leaders of the tea party fuming about plans by some republican strategists including karl rove to raise money to help quote-unquote electable candidates win primary races. leaders of the tea party and other republican...
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entitled karl rove is done. reads in part this. now comes the likes of senators such as ted cruz of texas and rand paul of ken tuck tow challenge him. smart, angry and aspect establishment conservatives who loathe the country club types and want to remake the parties in the isolationist in the antisocial welfare and anti-tax image, conservatives have the right to ask the roves of the world to ask what the gopers have done to limit the reach of government and enhance the libertarian view of the world. the answer to the rand pauls of the world is nothing. >> that was a long paragraph. >> and you take a guy like ted cruise, he went it a community college in texas or was it harvard? this rove ad suggests quite a few things. mitch mcconnell is concerned about ashley judd. >> he is concerned in general. he is a power here in washington and who i covered back when he was county judge in louisville. he has never been wildly popular in the state. he always had a tough race even when he hasn't had significant opponents and he's on a fault li
entitled karl rove is done. reads in part this. now comes the likes of senators such as ted cruz of texas and rand paul of ken tuck tow challenge him. smart, angry and aspect establishment conservatives who loathe the country club types and want to remake the parties in the isolationist in the antisocial welfare and anti-tax image, conservatives have the right to ask the roves of the world to ask what the gopers have done to limit the reach of government and enhance the libertarian view of the...
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rove practical wing of the party versus the tea party who are more ideological. we watched eric cantor's speech. is it tone shifting or ideology shifting? how much is just about dressing things up? >> yeah, that is i think a really important question. everyone can kind of agree, they need to not say the word self-deportation, that would be offensive to hispanics. that is agreement in the republican party. they don't have agreement on do we need a change in policy, do we legalize the kids or everyone, all 11 million undocumented workers. >> it's a huge step. when the president announced this last summer, they all panned it. eric cantor said it's make not a bad idea. is it the same plan? >> it's basically the same plan. that was then and this is now and seven out of 10 hispanic voters rejected mitt romney. so eric cantor may have a different view. >> can we talk about unity when you have two responses to a state of the union address? how is that marriage going? >> not only two responses -- >> tell people what you mean by that. >> we have the official republican res
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the big question is why do they still have karl rove on the payroll? into that and a whole lot more on the "full court press." first we get the latest, today's current news update, standing by in los angeles, here's lisa ferguson. hi lisa, good morning. >> hey bill. good morning everyone. chuck hagel will have to wait a little while longer before take up his new position as secretary of defense. the senate armed services committee had hoped to hold a vote as soon as today but now that's being delayed. after last week's hearing republicans say they want more information on hagel's speeches and his financial disclosures. until then they are opposing the vote but the committee chair is still hoping to schedule one as soon as possible. in idaho, a republican state senator is introducing a bit of an obscure bill requiring every single high school student to read ayn rand's novel. when asked why he chose that particular book, senator john getty said it because it made his son become a republican. he said it gives high schools an alternative way to adopt grad
the big question is why do they still have karl rove on the payroll? into that and a whole lot more on the "full court press." first we get the latest, today's current news update, standing by in los angeles, here's lisa ferguson. hi lisa, good morning. >> hey bill. good morning everyone. chuck hagel will have to wait a little while longer before take up his new position as secretary of defense. the senate armed services committee had hoped to hold a vote as soon as today but...
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karl rove joins us. nice to see you, karl. >> thanksers greta. >> greta: the jury is still not back so we know how everybody feels about it but the change in rule does leave out the private business owners who for maybe strong religious conviction don't want to pay for contraception. is this change going to be a good idea for everybody or put the lid on the problems? >> well, we need to see the exact wording of the rule and see its full implications. i think this may be a strategic retreat on the part of the administration. if you are a catholic university like ava maria university which filed suit not to be required as an explicitly roman catholic institution to violate its precipes you were liking to win the lawsuit. if you were the archdiocese or a church or a church-related institution you had probably a pretty good first amendment chance of winning that. the administration may have decided having won the point for political value in the campaign now is the time to retreat before it lost it in court.
karl rove joins us. nice to see you, karl. >> thanksers greta. >> greta: the jury is still not back so we know how everybody feels about it but the change in rule does leave out the private business owners who for maybe strong religious conviction don't want to pay for contraception. is this change going to be a good idea for everybody or put the lid on the problems? >> well, we need to see the exact wording of the rule and see its full implications. i think this may be a...
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one person who liked cantor's speech was karl rove. he promoted it on twitter as it was all unfolding. bob, is rove trying to become the architect of the party again? and of course he is going at it on the right-wingers as well. >> well, he doesn't have much choice, you know. he set up this new effort in american crossroads to try to influence gop primaries. and i'm not in the business of defending karl rove. but if i could take a leaf from gene robinson's book and say this is a kind of step that makes sense if you want to elect republicans. but the problem is with the dominance of the tea party types, the religious right, and a lot of these states you're going to see more republican nominees who are going to lose winnable races. rove wants to change that, although he is the one who contributed to creating it at almost every level over a long period of years. >> eugene robinson, bob shrum, great to have you on the program tonight. thank you so much for joining us. >>> remember to answer tonight's question there at the bottom of the scr
one person who liked cantor's speech was karl rove. he promoted it on twitter as it was all unfolding. bob, is rove trying to become the architect of the party again? and of course he is going at it on the right-wingers as well. >> well, he doesn't have much choice, you know. he set up this new effort in american crossroads to try to influence gop primaries. and i'm not in the business of defending karl rove. but if i could take a leaf from gene robinson's book and say this is a kind of...
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karl rove said the american cross roads superpac is planning more ads attacking ashley judd. the democrat may be considering a run against senator republican leader mitch mcconnell. the superpac debuted an ad this week seeking to portray ashley judd as an inexperienced hollywood liberal who's not even a resident of kentucky. >>> a hacker apparently accessed private photos between both former presidents and claims to have a list of family addresses and phone numbers and e-mails. those are the things we just thought you should know. [ voice of dennis ] ...safe driving bonus check? every six months without an accident, allstate sends a check. ok. [ voice of dennis ] silence. are you in good hands? your soups are so awesomely delicious my husband and i can't stop eating 'em! what's...that... on your head? can curlers! tomato basil, potato with bacon... we've got a lot of empty cans. [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. gives you 1% cash back on all purchases, plus a 50% annual bonus. and everyone likes 50% more... [ midwestern/chicago accent ] cheddar! yeah! 5
karl rove said the american cross roads superpac is planning more ads attacking ashley judd. the democrat may be considering a run against senator republican leader mitch mcconnell. the superpac debuted an ad this week seeking to portray ashley judd as an inexperienced hollywood liberal who's not even a resident of kentucky. >>> a hacker apparently accessed private photos between both former presidents and claims to have a list of family addresses and phone numbers and e-mails. those...
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. >>> karl rove versus ashley judd. the attack ad against the potential senate candidate. [ chuckles ] yeah, mon. come on! don't fret, me brotha. sticky bun come soon. ♪ yeah, wicked coffee, mista jim! julia, turn da frown de other way around! hey, dave, you're from minnesota, right? yes, i! da land of ten thousand lakes. the gopher state! so in conclusion, things are pretty dismal... you know what this room needs? a smile. who want to come with i? [ jimmy cliff's "c'mon, get happy" plays ] ♪ you guys are three minutes late. [ caribbean accent ] don't be no cloud on a sunny day! [ caribbean accent ] yeah, chill, winston. sir? respect boss man! [ laughter ] [ male announcer ] that's the power of german engineering. likely going through in the >>> she's not officially a candidate yet but ashley judd is getting a taste of what she could face if she decides to run for the united states senate. jim acosta is working the story for us. jim, what's going on with ashley judd? >> well, that's what the maker of this ad is doin
. >>> karl rove versus ashley judd. the attack ad against the potential senate candidate. [ chuckles ] yeah, mon. come on! don't fret, me brotha. sticky bun come soon. ♪ yeah, wicked coffee, mista jim! julia, turn da frown de other way around! hey, dave, you're from minnesota, right? yes, i! da land of ten thousand lakes. the gopher state! so in conclusion, things are pretty dismal... you know what this room needs? a smile. who want to come with i? [ jimmy cliff's "c'mon, get...
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rove sitting in a room with a button pushing the diebold button, but because there were not enough voting machines, and people got disenfranchised because of it. >> and the secretary of state made a decision to reduce the number of voting machines which leads in part to the question that why is this partisan at all? your point, ari, that there was bipartisan support in 2004 for the early voting, and these sound like common sense kind of thing that don't require a partisan point of view. >> you make a good point and apple for example meets the consumer where it is, but the republicans do the complete and total opposite, because they are not interested in meeting the americans where they are, but in their restriction. it goes the show that my younger cow since live in florida and stood in line three hours and they are young, but when i think about my grandmother who lives there, did she stand in line for four hours? well, she did, because she a good democrat, but it paints a good picture of what the republican platform is about, and we have a big tent, but we don't care if there are chairs
rove sitting in a room with a button pushing the diebold button, but because there were not enough voting machines, and people got disenfranchised because of it. >> and the secretary of state made a decision to reduce the number of voting machines which leads in part to the question that why is this partisan at all? your point, ari, that there was bipartisan support in 2004 for the early voting, and these sound like common sense kind of thing that don't require a partisan point of view....